It is doing Erik ten Hag some favour to put these two wounded beasts of European football on the same level right now.
Either that or Bavarian beer is stronger than previously thought.
For while Tuchel’s Munich team is capable of the odd slip — albeit a painful one like Saturday’s 5-1 humbling here at Eintracht Frankfurt — not many managers are kind enough or daft enough to draw comparisons with the serial crises at Old Trafford.
An hour or so before Ten Hag’s haphazard team were smashed 3-0 at home by little Bournemouth, Bayern Munich were winded by their heaviest Bundesliga defeat in four years.
It is the kind of mishap that can happen to the best in driving rain against game opposition in a volatile atmosphere. And it came after a run of six successive league victories.
Bayern are still only three points off the top and already through to the Champions League last 16 as they head to Manchester for tomorrow’s final Group A game with Harry Kane looking to vent his frustration.
Saturday was a massive off day for the England captain, who has scored 22 goals for his new club since August, including three hat-tricks and a spectacular halfway-line lob.
What Ten Hag would not give for those numbers and that sort of player.
In the Champions League, United have tossed away more leads than Battersea Dogs Home, humbled twice by European middleweights Galatasaray and overrun by Copenhagen.